Restoring Honor Rally conversation
Tuesday, August 31, 2010
By Megan Sweas
Comments (35)
No we haven't covered the Restoring Honor Rally yet, but since you've started talking about it, here are your comments in a new blog post. Continue posting from here! (Instead of on the blog about debt/vocations!)
Restoring Honor rally
By Anonymous (not verified) on Tuesday, August 31, 2010There is no mention anywhere of the 8/28 Glenn Beck rally... Anyone else go? It was a beautiful prayerful experience. I am sure thousands of Catholics participated. Where is the coverage?
Maybe Beck could first work
By Anonymous (not verified) on Tuesday, August 31, 2010Maybe Beck could first work toward becoming honorable himself. That would say more than all his rants and rallies.
Can you be forgiving?
By Jerry D (not verified) on Tuesday, August 31, 2010From a news report:
... Glenn Beck apologized for calling President Obama "racist" during a segment on the "Fox and Friends" morning cable news show last year.
In response to a question about the remark from "Fox News Sunday" host Chris Wallace, Beck said that he never should have said what he said the way he said it. "'Racist' - first of all, it shouldn't have been said," he replied. "It was poorly said. I have a big fat mouth sometimes and I say things. That's just not the way people should behave. And it was not accurate."
Beck's on-air apology on "Fox News Sunday" was actually the second he had made on the remark. His first apology for the "racist" remark came on a nationally syndicated conservative radio talk show on the Friday before the rally.
He has not asked my
By Anonymous (not verified) on Tuesday, August 31, 2010He has not asked my forgiveness nor does he need to. He continues to make millions by playing on people's fears and prejudices. When he stops doing this, maybe I'll believe his sudden conversion.
Beck promoted and covered it
By Linda (not verified) on Tuesday, August 31, 2010Beck promoted and covered it enough. No need to give him more attention.
Any Catholic who attended
By Anonymous (not verified) on Tuesday, August 31, 2010Any Catholic who attended Beck's rally should be ashamed. He is a Mormon who has attacked the Catholic Church and any other that has a social message of giving to the poor, promoting an economic system that puts people not profits first, protecting the environment and anything else he sees as evil commie liberalism. Everything in the above list and more has been pronounced as Catholic social teaching by this pope and his predecessors. Conservative Catholics are always calling normal mainstream Catholics "Cafeteria Catholics" who are Catholic in name only. They usually follow that with an invitation for them to agree with Church teaching 100% or get out. Anyone who listens to Beck or attends his rallies is a Cafeteria Catholic on the far right side of the Cafeteria with one foot out the door. Maybe they should put both feet out and join Beck at his temple on Sunday.
Hatred of Mormons
By Jerry D (not verified) on Tuesday, August 31, 2010Your tone suggest quite a bit of hatred of Mormons, which is acceptable on the left (and not subject to the protection of being a minority) because they are generally productive, are family oriented and vote Republican. Can you imagine someone saying "He is a Jew who...join (him) at his temple"?
Your hateful comtempuous smears that Beck sees giving to the poor and protecting the environment as "evil commie liberalism" is not productive to dialouge.
Rerum Novarum warned of too much government involvement in charity. Conservatives, not libertarians, do see some role for government, but want the role to be limited in line with the teachings of Rerum Novarum.
Check out the 12/10/09
By Anonymous (not verified) on Tuesday, August 31, 2010Check out the 12/10/09 address by Pope Benedict to the Brazilian bishops discussing the visible consequences of deceiptful principles of liberation theology. By the way, helping the poor is a basic Christian principle. It is called charity, not distribution of wealth. Also. if I make money, I am pleasing someone with a service. I am not out robbing 7-11s. Having the ability to make money is a gift from God.
Charity
By Anonymous (not verified) on Tuesday, August 31, 2010The Conservative Catholic mantra that giving to the poor should be entirely limited to voluntary charity and that government taxpayer funded aid is communistic redistribution of wealth is contrary to Church teaching. The Church teaches that governments have the right and duty to collect taxes for the common good including spending some of it on the poor who may be too poor to pay taxes. Conservatives take the Church teaching on Subsidiarity and twist it into a Libertarian principal. They share the view of President Herbert Hoover, a good and giving Quaker who believed as they do that all direct help to the poor should come exclusively from private voluntary charity. He thought the economic role of government was to support industry which would in turn benefit workers but did not think government should support individuals directly. He was a good humanitarian but a bad president at least as far as his response to the Depression.
Hoover 2
By Jerry D (not verified) on Tuesday, August 31, 2010You lefties received they standard left-wing version of history. The Great Depression was made great by the government intervention of Hoover and FDR.
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/243281/mind-changing-page-thomas-...
Hoover
By Anonymous (not verified) on Tuesday, August 31, 2010Conservatives think he was right to have a limited to hands-off response to it and that everything would have turned out all right in the long run but events in other countries lead support to FDR's belief that allowing the Depression to follow its natural course might have lead to desperate people seeking radical solutions. My mother's family was saved from going on Relief when my grandfather went off to work for the CCC. The CCC built things that would have never been built by private industry that benefit the country today. Conservatives were against it and are against government helping individuals today. It's not what the Church teaches.
You sound like a very angry
By Anonymous (not verified) on Tuesday, August 31, 2010You sound like a very angry person. I will pray for you.
Right-wingers are the only ones allowed to be angry
By Anonymous (not verified) on Tuesday, August 31, 2010Beck and his followers aren't angry? That's hilarious. Right-wing talkers practically put their fists through the radio and TV to the hallelujahs of their followers but they can all be counted on to dismiss anyone who criticizes them as angry. They justify their own anger because they are convinced they are right but anyone else has an anger management problem. It happens every time.
I'll take your prayers but following Glenn Beck just isn't Catholic. It would be interesting to read your justification of how it is.
I am a cradle Catholic and
By Anonymous (not verified) on Tuesday, August 31, 2010I am a cradle Catholic and have a loving family. I am working hard by example to live a good life for my grandchildren and the future. I think Glenn Beck is a believer in God. There are many people who believe in God. There are many religions in this great country and we have great freedoms to worship in our various ways. At the rally, there were rabbis, priests, imams, ministers, many Baptist black preachers included. The best presenter was a rabbi in my estimation. By rallying with GB, one is not espousing to Mormonism. One is a believer in God. It is very basic. If we cannot unite "under God" and only a government, we lose the important concept that man is created in the image and likeness of God. Every man, including Muslims. Then, man is elevated as a society. It is not a terrible thing. I think progressives tend toward uniting under a government that dictates and controls banks, the auto industry, who gets health care, etc. It is a trend I disagree with. It is a secular view of life that diminishes the freedoms we cherish. I have to laugh that the rally was called conservative. It was, of course, but how often did you hear that Al Sharpton's rally was liberal in the news these past couple of days. That would have been politically incorrect. Don't be afraid of what occurred. It was a time of reflection, a time of prayer for what our country stands for. I think we all have so much more in common that not. Let's not fight.
Funny, how divisive people
By Anonymous (not verified) on Tuesday, August 31, 2010Funny, how divisive people naturally tend to be. We are connected by so many core values. Mother Teresa would have gotten it, along with Martin Luther King.
No, I don't think Mother
By Linda (not verified) on Tuesday, August 31, 2010No, I don't think Mother Teresa would have "gotten" Glen Beck... She would have prayed for him, however.
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Watch the Rally
By Rita (not verified) on Monday, September 6, 2010My husband & I went to the Restoring Honor Rally. It was an amazing experience and God was there.
I have never heard any anti-Catholic speech from Beck, either at the rally or otherwise. Beck's a man, not perfect though, so if in the past he mentioned a comment, so what? He was promoting honoring God, our military and ordinary men/women that do extraordinary things. The comments I have read on this blog are indicative of people that did NOT attend the rally because Beck was promoting going to church/temple, etc and thanking God. He did not push his religion at all.
I encourage all of you to watch the 3 hour rally. You will realize that your comments are off base. Would Beck have managed to get 240 different religious leaders together, if God was NOT there? God Bless America, Glenn Beck and all of us!
Beck's foreFather
By Anonymous (not verified) on Wednesday, September 1, 2010"The people have spoken and the only American thing to do is abide by the will of the people... We shall barter our sovereignty as a free, independent nation or accept the decisions of a World Court as a super-nation to manage our affairs... Less care for internationalism and more concern for national prosperity."
- The Father of Talk Radio, the Radio Priest, Father Charles Coughlin
Ex-Catholic Beck owes respect where respect is due. Without incendiary populist radio pioneer Coughlin he would still be a DJ.
Beck's Forefather?
By Jerry D (not verified) on Wednesday, September 1, 2010It is quite uninformed for you call Father Caughlin the forefather of Beck. Coughlin operated under the term of "Social Justice" and published a magazine called "Social Justice. Coughlin was a big supporter of FDR until he determined FDR wasn't a big enough socialist and then Coughlin began promoting the principles of national socialism (along with other progressives such as John Croly, who wrote an editorial "An Apology of Facism" in the New Republic magazine.
I'm not uninformed
By Anonymous (not verified) on Thursday, September 2, 2010I'm familiar with Caughlin's history and positions and where they intersect and divide from Beck's. I've read the transcript of Beck's FOX piece on it. They are both media demagogues. Caughlin is the father of right-wing talk radio. He established the format. Beck, Limbaugh, Savage, Hannity and Kresta owe him their livelihoods.
I don't care what boxers Beck wears
By Anonymous (not verified) on Wednesday, September 1, 2010I'm the one who noted Beck is a Mormon. I don't hate Mormons. I live near their holy hill and treat them politely when they come with their backpacks to my door. I know more about their history than the their youthful missionaries who want to tell me about it. I treat all doorbell missionaries from the Mormons to Jehovah's Witnesses with respect beginning with, "I'm Catholic" and ending with, "I'm sorry but it would be against my religion to take your book". That's what the nuns taught me pre-VII. It was a sin back then to enter a Protestant church. Thanks Sisters. I don't argue with Mormons or any of them. I wish them a good day and we leave with a smile. Live and let live, that's me, a sinning progressive Catholic, unlike XYZ who would point out that they are going to hell. Funny how he/she hasn't said that about Beck or Palin. Let's see, Beck was born Catholic and turned Mormon, Palin was born Catholic and turned Pentecostal. Why are two of Conservative Catholics' favorite media stars ex-Catholics? Let's not mention Limbaugh who doesn't go to any church and Gibson who goes to his own.
I don't care about Beck or
By wsxyz (not verified) on Wednesday, September 1, 2010I don't care about Beck or Palin. Why should I say anything about them? However, I will say something about Newt Gingrich: He's a very interesting and engaging speaker, but a very, very poor moral example. I sincerely hope he is never again in a position of power.
But you care about me
By Anonymous (not verified) on Wednesday, September 1, 2010Why wouldn't you care about them? They were baptized Catholic. That means they're Catholic, right? That's what the nuns taught me. According to you I learned wrong. You told me I'm not Catholic. If I'm not Catholic then why do you care about me and say things about me and my family? Why do you tell everyone in the world that we will "most likely" go to hell? Can you please treat me like Beck and Palin? Please?
I don't care about them
By wsxyz (not verified) on Wednesday, September 1, 2010I don't care about them because I don't care about Republican party politics. I don't listen to Glen Beck and, apart from seeing a photo on Google news every now and then, I have no idea what Sarah Palin has been doing since fall of 2008.
If they are both ex-Catholics then, sure they are likely to have an unhappy death and judgment. But that goes for all non-Catholics, not only for them particularly. Perhaps they would both be Catholic if the Church hadn't been self-destructing for the last 40 years.
As for you, I would say you are Catholic, but you want to be Catholic on your own terms, not on God's terms, and that won't work. By rejecting any dogma of the Church, you reject the entire Catholic faith.
Thanks
By Anonymous (not verified) on Thursday, September 2, 2010You made my point. Conservative Catholics are following two Catholics (once baptized Catholic forever as I was taught) who rejected the teachings of the Church but jumped ship to other churches who "are likely to have an unhappy death and judgment". It would be interesting to see how many of them agree with you. I doubt most Conservative Catholic followers of Palin and Beck think they're going to hell. Most probably think they'll go to heaven. It's good that you've set them straight. I hope all their fans on this page now realize they are following heretics who will most likely drag them to hell with them.
once baptized Catholic
By wsxyz (not verified) on Thursday, September 2, 2010once baptized Catholic forever as I was taught
In a sense, yes. If Beck and Palin were baptized and raised Catholic then they are apostatized Catholics. But it would also not be incorrect, as a matter of common discourse, to say they used to be Catholic and are now... well whatever they currently claim to be.
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