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Health care reform now or never?

Thursday, February 25, 2010
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Today's bipartisan meeting on health care reform at the White House had Americans wondering if it was all a show or if the (small d) democratic process of debate and give-and-take is still possible.

The live-stream from the White House cut off frequently for me today, but bits and pieces that I did hear seemed to hear the Democrats saying that we all agree this is a huge problem, and the Republicans saying but we don't agree that/how we want to solve it. Indeed, 19 percent of lawmakers want to be done with health care this year, CNS reports, and CNN reports today 25 percent of Americans wants Congress to stop working on it. It'd be interesting to see if this differed by party. The significant fact here, though, is that 75 percent of Americans want health care reform.

At the Catholic Social Ministry Gathering a few weeks ago, the presenters for the session on health care proposed four options for going forward: reconciliation of the bills, push through some piecemeal bills, have some sort of paradigm-shifting moment (today?), or start over. Not one of their options: dump reform.

Is starting over possible? The CSMG crowd didn't seem to think so, even chuckling at that suggestion. The CNN poll, however, found that 48 percent of Americans want Congress to start over, as does the Catholic Medical Association.

With an election coming up and knowing how long it took for us to get to this point, I don't have much confidence that Congress can come up with a completely new--and more appealing--plan. "Start over" seems like "give up" to me. Weren't we forced to start over on health care reform in the 1990s?

But not starting over means compromise. While abortion is the No. 1 issue for Catholics, the presenter at the CSMG pointed out that in reconciliation, the abortion amendment is just one small piece of a vast bill with many issues to smooth out. Indeed the president's plan for reconciliation doesn't comment on abortion, CNS reports.

The bishops remain solidly in the middle--or maybe just torn and confused--on the future of reform. At the beginning of the USCCB's letter to Congressional leaders, the bishops say, "It is time to set aside partisan divisions and special interest pressures to find ways to enact genuine reform." But they conclude with much more caution: "Dialogue should continue and no legislation should be finalized until and unless these basic moral criteria [affordability and access for all, prohibitions on abortion funding, upholding conscience rights, and addresses needs of immigrants] are met."

The magazine has learned its mistake in the 1990s, when it didn't cover the health care debate because the editors were sure reform was just around the corner. We're interviewing Sister Carol Keehan, president of the Catholic Health Association, tomorrow. Perhaps we've finally grown a bit more cynical in our 75th year, but we do hold out hope that the situation will be different by the time the interview appears in the May issue of U.S. Catholic magazine, even if it renders our article irrelevant.

Thankfully, we'll post parts of the interview online in a timelier manner. In the meantime, I pose one of the questions we'll ask Keehan to our readers: Has the bipartisan meeting given you hope that we might achieve reform?

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How Socialized Medicine Will Save Money

It's easy folks; provide crappy care, universally, then (when the weak die off), there will be fewer patients to care for. It's as simple as that and it works in Great Britain, as well as Canada. That's how they do it. Don't forget: abortions for all (encouraged!) mean fewer patients, as well. It's cheaper to snuff them under Government mandate, then it is to care for them.

Also: fewer elderly patients left alive mean more health care dollars will be available for youthfull gang members who get shot, while participating in a drive-by confrontation. Now THAT'S the social justice we Catholics must strive for, especially if the wounded gang members are here, illegally! That's what Jesus would want!...........or so we're told.

Seriously; if so-called Catholics want to play footsie with this devil called, Government, they better be ready to play by that devil's rules!

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Sister Carol Keehan on health care reform

We've posted the 5 questions with Sister Carol Keehan of the Catholic Health Association: http://www.uscatholic.org/video/5-questions-sister-carol-keehan-dc-healt....

A few interesting things from her:

She says that while this bill isn't perfect, it is a good start. Not on the video, I asked her about the corruption. Apparently Senator Nelson saw the response to the Nebraska deal and voluntarily decided to take that back. This is to be resolved in reconciliation. Keehan says that because there is so much attention on this bill, it has much less in earmarks than most other bills that get past. In terms of deals with hospitals, Keehan says that hospitals will benefit because they will have more paying customers, which is why they have agreed to give back $150 billion in federal funds used to pay for patients that don't pay over the next 10 years.

The other interesting point she made was that this bill has to be comprehensive because you can't fix just one part at a time. You can't require insurance companies to cover more and pre-existing conditions without widening the number of customers paying into the insurance plans. As Jerry shows with his examples, you have to require people to buy insurance before they get to the point where they need to use it. Keehan says piecemeal bills won't be effective in correcting the entire system.

British Health Disaster

President Obama made it clear prior to his presidency that he wants a government takeover of medicine. This step is just to destroy private insurance. People will be able to apply for insurance on the way to the hospital since there is no limit on preexisting conditions.

We can have health care like Great Britain which is reeling from the latest hospital scandal of 1,200 unnecessary deaths... and our government wrings its hands over two deaths a year from Toyata acceleration malfunctions.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/7310629/Bosses-at-scandal-h...

Health Care

For a nation so great it is difficult for me to understand why the United States does not have a health care system for all ... not just the rich or the unionized with their private systems. Despite the untrue stories,Canada has a terrific one.

Interestingly Canadian doctors originally went on strike to protest but they did not have the support of the people. But our doctors don't make as much money.

One of the reasons so many American cars are made in Canada, U.S. car companies save over $1100 dollars per car having vehicles made in Canada.

Good luck hope big business doesn't stop Obama.

Health Care and Social Justice

I was glued to the live broadcast of today's health care summit for a variety of reasons, including my ongoing involvement with sectors of the industry.

I've long admired Sr. Carol Keehan and would love her to address what appears (to me) to be a disturbing disconnect among some Catholics: a reluctance/inability to equate universal health care with Catholic social justice teachings about preferential options for the poor.

Social Justice Must Help

The objection to the bills is that they will not help the poor.

Too often political ideology causes confusion when it comes to social justice.

Proper social justice creates a result that helps people.

Faux social justice grabs power under the guise of helping people.

Real poverty is addressed only by practical solutions that actually work, not by the corruption of special interests such as Andy Stern's union.

Bad Bill is Not Solution

One of the first questions I would ask Sister Carol Keehan is how she feels about the corruption in the current bills.

Special deals for some states but not others, special deals for Andy Stern and the unions, but not for regular folk, and a system that guts protection when it comes to matters of conscience.

I would ask the Sister how one can expect good results when the starting point is blatant, in-your-face corruption.

The Republicans (whom I do not necessarily support) made it very clear from the opening comments today that they want reform - but they want to start over and proceed step by step (as any intelligent person would want to do).

I am shocked that Catholics would support corruption rather than play a vital role in starting over and insisting on a fair and just approach that actually works to help people.

Why do Catholics wish to line the pockets of Andy Stern, Rahm Immanuel, Jeffrey Immelt, and others who would shutter the Catholic church in a second, given the chance.

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