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Catholic battle at Social Ministry Gathering?

Monday, February 8, 2010

In recent debates about the Catholic Campaign for Human Development (CCHD), John Carr is trying to take the high road, telling participants in the Catholic Social Ministry Gathering that it is essential to maintain a civil discourse with various groups. 

Carr, executive director of the USCCB's Department of Justice, Peace and Human Development, responded to personal attacks (see news story) from a group aiming to reform CCHD at the Catholic Social Ministry Gathering in Washington, D.C. this morning. (I missed the speech, thanks to a winter blizzard and two canceled flights, but I talked to him this evening.)

Some have attacked Carr personally, particularly RealCatholicTV and American Life League, while others have said that they aren't pointing to him in particular. Carr said that they are right that it's not about him. "This is about the priority for the poor and whether we're going to act," he said.

"I would distinguish between those who have concern for the poor and wonder whether we're doing it the right way and those who simply disagree with the priority and the methods of CCHD," Carr said. "And then there are some who frankly have been attacking the bishops, the Conference, CCHD, and now me, and they've never found anything good to say about the church and its work."

"For people who know me, the idea that I'm a secret agent for the pro-choice movement just doesn't fit," Carr said. Many, in fact, have come to Carr's defense, including Father Frank Pavone of Priests for Life. Throughout his career leading the social justice initiatives of the bishops' conference, he's tried to bring the pro-life and justice camps together. He's attended the March for Life as long as he could remember, he said. The bishops' pro-life office has had a notable presence at each Social Ministry Gathering that I have attended.

"The polarization in public life is now coming over to Catholic life," Carr said. But while he would rather we "give each other the benefit ofthe doubt," what might be most telling about this story is how one audience member this morning responded.

"Unfortunately these days, if you're friends with everyone, somebody will condemn you," Louise Johnson of Modesto, California told me this evening. "It's not all that unusual" to hear such attacks within parishes and dioceses, she continued. "Social justice ministers run into this frequently because there's a lot of one-issue people who don't see the whole picture." 

Carr explained that bottom-up organizing can get complicated and mistakes can be made, but he ultimately wants people to assume the best in each other and see the good that can come from social justice work. "My wish is that people would see what actually happens to people's lives and communities as a result of this work," he said. 

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He knows his CCC

"Carr...ultimately wants people to assume the best in each other and see the good that can come from social justice work."

CCC #2478 To avoid rash judgment, everyone should be careful to interpret insofar as possible his neighbor's thoughts, words and deeds in a favorable way..."

It's pretty clear, the USCCB

It's pretty clear, the USCCB is corrupt. The upper level management are career do-gooders that give lip service to the Church, by using the faithful's money to work with organizations that do not match with the Church's moral positions.
Why the USCCB would ever hire someone who was involved with a pro-gay marriage organization already is beyond belief.
Aren't there qualified people to choose from, that have dedicated their lives to authentically Catholic causes?
But the answer is clear, positions at the USCCB are given to friends and cronies rather than militant Catholics.

Cooperation with Evil

Carr needs to explain his tenure with the CCC and what role he played in areas of homosexual marriage and other homosexual practice promotions. Right now he and two other bishops are doing the Saul Alinsky attacks of his critics instead of checking out the claim.

You can't play with the pigs and not come out smelling funny.

Boanerges

Please sign the Manhattan Declaration

If you think the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops ought to be dismantled then also look at the The Manhattan Declaration http://www.manhattandeclaration.org/

strange "reporting" here

Perhaps Miss Sweas could do some actual reporting here (as opposed to spin management) regarding this very real controversy.

Since she accuses ALL and RCTV of personally attacking Carr, maybe she could provide some actual quotes of these "attacks". Honesty requires this, otherwise she is simply doing the same thing decried in this article, namely, defaming one with whom she disagrees.

Carr has not been personally attacked. The charges are clear and documented, and US Catholic, like other outlets, is ignoring the actual charges. While you're at it, report the fact that both the USCCB and CCC silently scrubbed their sites after the last round of reports came out--password protecting or removing links that had previously been accessible. Is this what honest and open organizations do when challenged?

I know, I don't expect to see reporting on that angle of the story in US Catholic, either.

Bryan Cones's picture

Only "strange" because you disagree

I'm not sure why it's "strange" to go directly to a source for comment about a controversy. Your first sentence is an example of making it personal. "Miss Sweas"? Seriously?

As for site-scrubbing, I agree. CCHD and the bishops should be more straightforward in their own defense instead of surrendering to the shrillness of their critics.

Bryan Cones

Wrong

No, what's 'strange' are these claims that Carr's pro-life convictions have been called into question while there is no quotation or citation to back that up.

Do you have ANY quote you can supply that claims that Carr is not pro-life? I know I can find one that says this isn't being called into question:

http://all.org/article.php?id=12506

"While John Carr and those he works with in the CCHD may profess to be pro-life, and we aren’t questioning this, the fact of the matter is that whatever justification may be offered for this kind of cooperation is nothing short of the flaccid excuses pro-abortion “Catholics” in public office toss out when they profess to be “personally pro-life, but …”

Regardless of what Carr’s reasons may be, what we would like to know is how the USCCB can justify this explicit cooperation, or if it was even known to them."

--From ALL's first article on this topic.

Since he's addressing last

Since he's addressing last weeks' scandalous revelations, maybe he can explain why pro-abortion Paul Booth, pro-homosexual marriage Dr. Diana Hayes, and Vatican-removed Fr. Thomas Reese were given a speaking platform at this gathering?

"ALL: Scandal-Ridden USCCB Brings Pro-Abortion, LGBT Rights Activists to Speak at 4-Day Even" (pewsitter.com)

In fact, maybe he can explain what justification can possibly be used to pay dues to the pro-abortion, pro-same-sex marriage Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights?

"Why Did the USCCB Join This Civil Rights Organization?" (insidecatholic.com)

Since he's speaking so

Since he's speaking so freely about this scandalous relationship with the CCC, perhaps he can explain why pro-abortion Paul Booth, Pro-homosexual marriage Dr. Diana Hayes, and Vatican-removed Fr. Thomas Reese were given a speaking platform at this gathering?

http://www.pewsitter.com/view_news_id_28931.php

In fact, maybe he can explain what justification can possibly be used to pay dues to this pro-abortion, pro-same-sex marriage organization?

http://insidecatholic.com/Joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&...

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