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Great achievements of Vatican II: Liturgical music

Monday, January 11, 2010

One of the favorite punching bags of those who don't like post-conciliar liturgy is the music. Most recent is this throwaway from Michael Sean Winters on America's blog:

Much of the music written for the post-conciliar liturgy is unbeautiful and pedestrian in the extreme.

Seriously? Can we dismiss the efforts of our sisters and brothers so flippanty? I am quite frankly shocked any Catholic would so poorly judge the faith-inspired efforts of so many dedicated Catholics with such an extreme overstatement. Sure, there has been bad music written since Vatican II, and I'm sure everyone has their favorite straw man song. But there was a lot of garbage written well before that, too, it just got consigned to the big a long time ago, and even lyrics that have survived have dubious theological value. (Try the Dies irae.)

What everyone, Winters included, forgets is that music for the "new" liturgy, following the directives of the liturgy constitution, made the "full, conscious, and active participation of the faithful" the first priority. The admittedly beautful music of the baroque period was never meant to be sung by the assembly; it was music for professionals, written for a liturgy done by "professionals." It's apples and oranges.

Musicians after Vatican II took on a massive project. Here is what they produced:

Vernacular settings of the psalms for the lectionary and the liturgy of the hours, bringing the psalter to the faithful to an extent not seen since the patristic age

Setting after setting of service music (Kyrie, alleluia, Holy, memorial acclamation, great amen, lamb of God) that can easily be sung by any assembly

Hymns inspired by scripture, sometimes taken directly from scripture, again bringing scripture to the faithful in a new way

Inspired and creative music in multiiple languages, which allows multilingual assemblies to sing the same songs

Accessible music that untrained choirs and assemblies can sing well and beautifully

So stop picking on the musicians.

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Changes in Liturgical Music and prayers.

Why are we wasting so much time on these changes? I think we should put more effort into learning how to understand each other. I am not inferring that one religion is as good as another. Rather, those who have been brought up in their respective faith for many generations, put much trust in their ancestry. aaaaaaaaaaaai believe we of different faiths can get together on solving our problems on earth ny working together to perform God's wishes here on earth. For example: Concentrate more on living the Beatitudes, rather than the commandments. I am 79 years old and really missed the old music, but loved the directness of the readings and prayers in English. My big complaint was the sudden and complete changeover. Now Icab see how the younger folks get more out of music of this age, and I , myself, find it more useful. I believe our church is suffering from the same problems of old age that I am. Our church leaders should be more active i working out solutions to world problems. When one gets old (over 75 years), simple problems such as changing words of prayers and songs aRE MUCH EASIER THAN MEETING WITH THOSE OF DIFFERING CULTURES AND WORKING ON PROBLEMS SHARED BY ALL.

The devil has infiltrated

The devil has infiltrated the Church, and there it is. Ecumenism is killing our Church.

Thank you Tom!

Tom, I believe wisdom often accompanies age. Thank you for your reflection, as they are RIGHT ON! Jesus was ALL about spirituality (which implies a choosing a life of love and selflessness, and not really very hot on religion, actually: see writings on the Pharisees.) Let's love this world to a new level!

Catholic Liturgical music

I am a Liturgical Music Director by profession, and have a masters degree in music and another in religious studies. My practice is to give my assembly a diversity of musical styles. They will sing (and this assembly sings very well) contemporary and traditional within the same Mass. Our church is always full.
Most people appreciate the diversity of music presented to them. Occasionally, someone will complain that they want ONLY traditional, or ONLY contemporary. I tell them, "The Church is a diverse community: Look around during Mass to see the young, the old, the rich and the poor. Our faith and our worship necessarily needs to reflect our diversity." Anyone who comes to worship with an assembly and maintains the attitude that "it's all about themself" really doesn't understand the Gospel of Jesus.
Amen.

Right on, Nick

James Joyce's description of the Roman Church, "Here Comes Everybody."

It's not about diversity

It's not about diversity either.

When will you progressives get off this whole Mass being a community gathering and remember that Mass always has been, and always will be, the offering of an un-bloody sacrifice to the almighty God?

Jesus and the Body of Christ

Jesus was progressive, and His disciples did not always approve of that in him either. Jesus came to save the Jews AND the Gentiles, which Peter and Paul even argued about! Which side are you on, Jesus' or Peter's? The Body of Christ IS community at it's heavenly best! God wants us to worship through servanthood. It's never just about the Jews with Jesus
(or Catholics) it's about everyone being worthy of His love. Who are the Gentiles in your life? Jesus offers His body to them also!
So sorry for the upsetting news!

Jesus was not "progressive"

Jesus was not "progressive" in the sense that you progressive Catholics take. Jesus did not come to ordain women as priests, to permit sodomy and homosexual marriage, etc. Jesus came to save Jews and Gentiles, but did he not also say if groups should reject the Gospel message that the apostles should dust off their feet and move on?

The "Good Ole Days" before VII

Brian responded that <>.

The Latin Rite had a sung form "High Mass" - but ALL music was required to be in Latin at this Mass.
The Latin Mass most Catholics remember was the "Low Mass" at which hymns (and hymns only ) were occasionally allowed.
When would we have sung Anglican Chant?

So, whether the Anglican chant was available or not was irrelevant, it would never have been permitted..

By the way, most Catholics avoided the "High Mass" because the music in most parishes was rarely Gregorian, and usually horrible stuff.

Music

The underlying problem with the new music in the Church is that it is just plain bad. Listen to the music. Much of it sounds like cocktail lounge music. Just because some one composes music, there is no guarantee that it will be good; or singable.

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