So long, Father Cutie
Oh well. "Father Oprah"--who would really want that nickname?--has gone and left us for the Episcopalians. Forced to choose between love and ministry in the Roman Catholic Church, I guess he chose the former.
And how many of Miami's Catholics do you think will follow him?
One priest with a girlfriend is hardly reason to abandon mandatory celibacy, but at some point Catholics--including our bishops--are going to have to ask ourselves: Are we going to allow ourselves to be diminished throughout the world just because of a archaic rule we refuse to give up? I mean, it's not like we're rejecting the Trinity here.
It's long past time to relax the requirement that all priests be celibate. Let those called to it choose it. But mandatory celibacy is not worth sacrificing so many skilled ministers, much less our identity as a sacramental church.
Addressing Problems
By Dennis (not verified) on Tuesday, May 18, 2010Ok Mr. O'Rourke, so I'll ask you, skip over the controversial issues, how do we address obvious wrongs in the earthly arm of our Church? Are we to sit quietly on our hands and wait for the hierarchy to straighten itself out? History shows that this seldom happens. For all the criticism of the protestants, it seems to me that historically they were part of the impetus to reform some of the abuses of the past. It is unfortunate for the sitting hierarchy that the laity has become an educated and well informed body that takes an interest in how things are done, and are not easily led. They need to earn respect through wise actions and good judgment, items which have been in evidence but have been eclipsed by the abysmal actions of some at the highest levels. So I ask again, what are we to do?
ex father Cutie
By Anonimo brenda (not verified) on Wednesday, June 3, 2009Mr. Cutie has the right to choose if he
wishes to continue the commitment previously made; the church has room for that; he could have done without the "show".The church has other rites that allow that option. He elected the Latin
Rite; the only one that does not allow marriage. If he had a change of heart, it's okey, we all do change our views of life; but he could have done it without
the "show biz" effect.In my view he has no self dignity and will do to his "new church" what he did to the catholic church. I don't stand in judgement of him; that is between him and God, but he should have done it with a bit more class
U.S. Catholic is published
By Anonymous (not verified) on Tuesday, June 2, 2009U.S. Catholic is published by the Claretians, who describe themselves as "a Roman Catholic religious community of priests and brothers dedicated to the mission of living and spreading the Gospel of Jesus—to serving life—in more than 60 countries on five continents."
The Claretians seem to understand that "spreading the Gospel" is not simply a matter of preaching. It's also a matter of listening. Presumably, this website exists precisely because the Claretians want to engage us in conversation.
U.S. Catholic
By T. O'Rourke (not verified) on Tuesday, June 2, 2009If you are to whom I have been writing, discussion is fine. Opinions that dissent from the Ordinary Magisterium of the Church are not, as U.S. Catholic is already aware because they have been disciplined by the CDF before for this reason. U.S. Catholic needs to teach what the Church actually teaches and not teach what some of its employees personally wish the Church should change. If not, they give the impression that what they write is what the Church teaches. That causes scandal. Anyway, I think that you have made your point. I am certain that I presented what the Church actually teaches. God bless and protect you. T+
Continuing with Article 37
By T. O'Rourke (not verified) on Tuesday, June 2, 2009The two cited teachings cannot contradict each other so lets look at the sentence immediately following your citation: “When occasions arise, let this be done through the organs erected by the Church for this purpose.” The Church, for the purpose of allowing the laity to express personal opinion that dissents from what the Ordinary Magisterium teaches, has not erected U.S. Catholic or Bryan Cones. However, the Church has erected the sacrament of confession, with the confidentiality inherit to it, and tribunals, by which the rights of the laity can be opined for judgment as determined by canon law. t+
The end of Father Oprah
By Lavin (not verified) on Monday, June 1, 2009Good Riddens http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/may/28/priest-dubbed-father-oprah-leaves-church/ I can't say I am sad to leave him go.
Rejoinder
By T. O'Rourke (not verified) on Saturday, May 30, 2009Bryan consistently promotes positions that are in direct opposition to the ordinary magisterium of the Church. Bryan consistently smugly attacks Church teachings that are not in accord with his personal worldview. Consequently, Bryan brings scandal upon those who would listen to him. Constant personal opinion directed towards changing Church doctrine is far more supercilious than the frustrated brusque messenger who merely presents what the Church Herself actually teaches.
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Your time is running out
By T. O'Rourke (not verified) on Saturday, May 30, 2009Greetings,
Besides the very important fact that you continue to avoid the vital point that the laity is required to submit their wills to the teachings of ordinary magisterium, even regarding disciplinary matters, as proved in these very pages ad nauseam, your obstinacy is irrelevant towards your desired end but most likely will incur guilt on your soul instead.
Anyway, the fact of the matter is that all of the various clerical abuses have very much improved the quality of priests that our seminaries are producing. Your time is running out.
Timothy+
It was just an opinion,
By Anonymous (not verified) on Saturday, May 30, 2009It was just an opinion, lighten up. I appreciate the points you make. They are valuable to the discussion. But why all the imperious sarcasam in so many of your comments? There is too much hate in the world and so many use the rightousness as a cover. Too ofthen those who as so convinced of there rightousness (on both the right and the left) feel they don't have to respect other individuals whose opinion differ from theirs. Because, of course, their way is God's way. For me, I find it exhusting, uncharatible and unchristian.
Rejoinder
By T. O'Rourke (not verified) on Saturday, May 30, 2009Bryan consistently promotes positions that are in direct opposition to the ordinary magisterium of the Church. Bryan consistently smugly attacks Church teachings that are not in accord with his personal worldview. Consequently, Bryan brings scandal upon those who would listen to him. Constant personal opinion directed towards changing Church doctrine is far more supercilious than the frustrated brusque messenger who merely presents what the Church Herself actually teaches.
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