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Comments (181)
Spell-check your Latin... ;)
By Jeffrey Pinyan (not verified) on Tuesday, October 13, 2009"Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salas!"
Outside of the Church, You May Salt Nothing!
(Methinks you meant "Salus")
Are you seriously wishing
By Loyally Dissenting Catholic (not verified) on Wednesday, October 7, 2009Are you seriously wishing death on people?
You think it is ok to stack a poll with more votes than is fair? One person, one vote!
Rome doesn't have the right to this visitation. Who visited them when they covered up abuse?
JA is just stating the facts
By GA Catholic (not verified) on Wednesday, October 7, 2009JA is just stating the facts - these orders are, most literally, dying out. Their average age is mid-70s and they have no vocations.
Rome has a right to investigate any branch, twig, or leaf of the Catholic Church because Rome is authority in the Catholic Church.
That's *Father* John Zuhlsdorf to you.
By Bill (not verified) on Wednesday, October 7, 2009This is an open poll. Those of us who are faithful to the Church are still allowed to express our view of the necessity of the visitation, are we not? Or is there some litmus test?
Ancilla Dei
By k3vin (not verified) on Wednesday, October 7, 2009I guess it comes down to whether or not the nuns wish to be Catholic. If so, "fiat mihi secundum verbum tuum" should be their response to the visit.
Trad=obedient
By Barb (not verified) on Wednesday, October 7, 2009Submission is a trait of humility. Too many sisters have dumped humility for "freedom" of a dubious sort. They took vows and then rejected them by redefining them to their own liking.
The modernist sisters who are frantic about this visitation have moved so far "beyond Christ" that they no longer believe that the distance from Him is a bad thing. A profound prayer life is neglected almost completely in favor of an "active" life. They need our prayers and sacrifices.
Fiat Voluntas Tua
This is my second comment
By Anonymous (not verified) on Tuesday, October 6, 2009This is my second comment but I only voted once.
To those who think only traddies favor the visitation, I should be interested to hear from them (genuinely) as to why nuns and sisters who reject Catholic teaching even on Christ (I heard of this and looked at some of their comments where I was honestly shocked) should continue to be allowed to call themselves Catholic religious and to be funded by the Church.
I know they have worked with the poor. That is not my question.
I honestly would like a dialogue as to what to do with those religious who no longer regocnise the authoirty of the Church and no longer subscribe to the beliefs as set out in the Cathechism.
Do such readers really believe this is not an issue?
Does simply asking the question "condemn" me as a traddie? I don't think I am. I grwew up only with the OF Mass even though I now attend both EF and OF forms.
A visitation is clearly
By Anonymous (not verified) on Tuesday, October 6, 2009A visitation is clearly needed. Some but not all nuns ignore Church teaching, Church discipline on matters such as habits, and seem to think the "Spirit" of Vatican II means they are entitled to do what they want. Of course, they are entitled to do what they want, but where it diverges from Church teaching and discipline, they cannot call themselves "Catholic" religious or expect the Church to fund their retirement.
About time! Light the fires!
By Inquisitor Generalis (not verified) on Tuesday, October 6, 2009I think that some of the heretical answers on here show that dissent has reached epidemic proportions both amongst the laity and the religious communities in this country. So glad to see the Inquisition has begun! Viva Papa!
St. Michael the Archangel defend us in this day of battle!
Completely necessary, reasonable, and justified.
By Timothy J OBrien (not verified) on Tuesday, October 6, 2009As a young Catholic I'm happy to see the Church finally acting! I find more and more that the younger Catholics are tired of the dissent and rotten fruit brought on by our parents generation (sorry - mom and dad, its true).
However, we are encouraged to see that this again group of the "hippie" generation is fading into oblivion. Their bark is MUCH louder than their bite nowadays. They only get louder when they realize they are no longer getting their way.
In the end, Holy Mother Church will always prevail.
